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Is Telus frying its built-in GPS function in the HTC Touch Diamond...?

August 30, 2008 13:37 by Rickron

I was looking for a smartphone to replace my Axim x50v to get the cellular service but still keeping the wifi function to get free internet access when near of gateway. But moreover I found the telus htc touch diamond with a GPS built-in feature. This feature is described on the htc web site as a function to avoid relying on the well known NAV GPS service.  But I did some research and again....Beware I am not sure about what I have read on various forums but it seems that they are frying before selling the built-in GPS function obviously to ensure collecting greedily their monthly 10$ for their nav GPS service. It looks very bad because if someone were to buy this device by just looking on the htc web site , http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=46286 , he would be on the bad track. Does it sound like a possibility like going into legal action on them (and also on other cellular operator ) to stop such bahavoir or get finally what we are paying for. Are they allowed to do such thing ? I would be very happy to know what Telus would have to say if they were asked in the public place... Just imagine that you'd buy a computer but the retail merchant decide to keep the network card working only if you pass by its internet service at high price. I guess, You would be probably slightly upset...

But hey Bell looks like they are doing the same with their wifi functions on the HTC Touch or they choose to sell a CDMA version happily to keep flowing in the money.  Only Roger seems to keep themselves from such nasty ways....

It seems that I will probably have to endure my axim x50v for a time to come until I get answers... or GO ROGERS !!!

 Rickron


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C++/CLI as code behind link!!!

August 29, 2008 11:19 by Rickron

In my last post I was wondering if it was possible to use C++/CLI as code behind but it seems that the answer is "no". But I have found these link to bring some answer. Sound interesting.

 http://forums.msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/vcgeneral/thread/7f2ada00-7678-466f-90f4-beb3f511fda9/

http://www.vistax64.com/avalon/134-xaml-c-code-behing.html

http://www.directorforum.de/showthread.php?t=60472

Rickron


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C++/CLI the most powerful language for the .net

August 29, 2008 10:42 by Rickron

I have read that line into an article in the MSDN but still I am still searching in my neighborhood people that have any affinity with this language and I am living a great solitude. ;(  I think this language is effectively interesting. Since the code is not safe or verifiable most of the time and it is not one of the language that can be used as code behind ( but not sure about this I have found a information on windows server 2008 that there would a possiblity to native code under iis, I am still trying this article...) in asp.net I think that the greatest problem about its non-popularity is that the dev studio team or whatever , they deliberately avoid to promote it. Is it because they are expecting to pull the plug on this language in future version of Visual Studio and avoid to create unnecessary worries in their customer ?   I am very curious to see in the future what this language will still deserve from their creator...

 

Rickron


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Old OpenGL animation player

July 1, 2008 12:25 by Rickron

Here's a little gift about my own experience with OpenGL, in Runner. It's an animation player using a syntax I developed for a graduation project. Compared to recent tool this is a joke. There are aspect of this I am not very proud other not so bad. Since I did it a long time ago  some will see that the gui is really light and is only in french, and I did all this using win32 API  in C (no mfc). Give a look to the different script and feel free to try different things. As of now I am looking for the syntax documentation . I come with it later.

As usual it should work with a win32 OS and opengl should used from the local folder but just in case I do not hold any responsibilities for problem incurred by this application or offer setup help.

To resume the features in this funny tool, you should see that .txt file coming along the .exe are the animation and I am not sure all are very good or simply working but the objetchienrectangle.txt is a funny one.

You can browse the animation in the treeview but unfortunately nothing can be modified. But you are free to modify the camera position byt take care to get lost something. Have fun.

 

 Rick

 

 


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javascript global namespace variable

June 15, 2008 16:18 by Rickron

I am just refreshing  my javascript skill recently and I wonder if does anyone know where in vs2008 we can get the list of the global variable declared in the debugger?

 let's see an unsual couple of line inside the <script> block like that:

( function (){

 ggg = 999;

return function(){return 0;}

})();

It create a global variable ggg that should hold a value as soon the <script> is loaded along the html page. It works because this global variable is helded into memory using the javacript closure mecanism.

In this case (and in fact also for any global variable ) I have a problem to list these variables from container like typing the this keyword into the quick watch and you get the content of current object . Any idea ? Is there a language keyword that would allow us to see these variables ?

Rick


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Hey They Finally Updated it

May 19, 2008 02:18 by Rickron

Compare these two C++ Abstract Declarators documentation articles and Yes they finally fixed their OLD typo error when declaring the PVFN function pointer !!! This error was there since at least end of 90' with VC6 and probably in prior version of the msdn. I smile at this because in 1999 I simply click at the bottom of the window where you can send a feedback to have them fix the problem in future release and the email probably end into a garbage collector...And when I look to the second URL it seems to point to a VC8 URL even if the intended actions is to bring us to the 2005 version. Is it possible that this fix be more recent, even in 2008... C++ Abstract Declarators are a topics so complicated to handle that it should not be allowed to let such documentation error. This fix was probably part of en entire update of their C++ language , it soundsthat  the doc topics seems to have grown over time...

 

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa245290(VS.60).aspx

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/92ddtf6h(VS.80).aspx 

 


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CRT TV

May 18, 2008 15:54 by Rickron

Recently I have succeeded to get complete my work environment. An ideal one, the one that I would like to have at the office. A old style 14' CRT TV just aside my PC. Last week and in fact for months now I try to get from local electronics retailer, futureshop or bestbuy these little treasure. The one I have bought is a Toshiba CRT flat screen acquired for around 130$. I know it is expensive for 14 inch TV but until now it looks like compiared to LCD TV they are still a lot less expensive and for someone like me that don't  the cable th be entertainment it is perfect.  I said just above that these good quality TV were treasure mostly also because they are now impossible to find in outlet. LCD TV are always less expensive but cheaper one are still too poor in quality. Then I asked you , if you are local in montreal and are able still  able to find such TV let me know. Seriously I think that the next time I see some of them I would need to buy them all. Only alternative is the 21 inch but alas I find them too big.

Rickron


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C++ compiler for PDA

May 18, 2008 15:38 by Rickron

I am often in situations where I would like to try a snippet of code just for fun and I wonder if there is a possibility in the future that we get for PDA or even mobile device some development tools or simply mini-compiler to try off something different language feature. But simply searching for C++ compiler on www.pocketgear.com doesn't give anything as of now. Why is it so difficult to find such tools that are so easy to find on PC.


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Bitblt equivalent , Enum Class and Form designer juggling

May 18, 2008 12:51 by Rickron

BitBlt

Here's my problem ... I wanted a function similar to the bitblt  function like copyfromscreen but using bitmap and i didn't find anything. Does anyone know how to get through this. But since I am working in C++/CLI I ended up simply using bitblt function directly from user32.dll (without the usual interop mecanism). It worked nicely as usual, thanks to the possibility to "mix" managed and native code, very cool.

Generics 

 Ones will admit that C++/CLI is not easy to use. I just remember  a feature I didn't  use often ( I mean defining my own generic class and reuse them) ,  the "generics" ( the equivalent to C++ template). Mainly because I was in a GUI development work time and  I had some reserve on how generic could be useful to do generic control without losing for example the form designer support (this thing in C++/CLI seems to be so fragile..!!!! and I even wonder if using generic in the c# form designer is still possible). But may be in the next months....I will bring you some example.

Enum types

 Another not so obvious C++/cli language feature : "managed enum"

 Thanks to the MSDN documentation. Suppose you have a enum class with an AttributeFlags applied on it so that it behave like bitwise. Then one would admit that if I use native enum into  an if statement I should get a normal test performed.  Then such code

[FlagsAttribute]

enum class toto

{

a = 0,

b = 1,

c = 2,

d = 3

};

and the if statement. Since I have combined value I have to use  the & operator to get the condition working because the == operator is clearly not sufficient,

 

 

toto ttt = toto::a|toto::b|toto::d;

 

if(ttt & toto::b)

{

int i = 0;

}

I was getting this error :

1>.\enumtest.cpp(22) : error C2451: conditional expression of type 'toto' is illegal

1> This conversion requires an explicit cast (static_cast, C-style cast or function-style cast)

Yes it looks very annoying but this is just another example to which extent is going the correct type use in operator.

And moreover the MSDN provide me with this to fix. At first sight it looks very strange but after all it shows at which point the language is capricious when dealing with managed types...;))

if((ttt & toto::b) != toto())

{

int i = 0;

//--

}

Take note of the right hand side equality operator where we need an on-the-fly constructed enum object to properly have the equality get performed

Until now I think it is the most unsual construct in the language.

Rickron


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Windbg new releases

May 12, 2008 14:56 by Rickron

WinDBG 6.9.3.113 Released

A new version of the debugger tool suite has been published recently.

These tools are free are the best way to learn the intricacities when debugging windows user and kernel.

Unfortunately I am still in the process to finish reading Advanced Windows Debugging , the best book I have found on these tools. But after 3 chapter I have enough info to play.

 

Rickron

 

 


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migration to win2008

April 21, 2008 10:42 by Rickron

Looks like the recent migration to win2008 for this blong has been a success.... for as little code as I have it is not a surprise. Does anyone know what's new with win2008 and iis7 , or any advantages....

Rick


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Overqualified worker in canada

April 16, 2008 13:49 by Rickron

An interesting link about the fact that we have a growing number of over qualified people in canada. The young boy that serve you your next coffee is probably more qualified than you.

 

Rick


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Stack transformation matrix cont'd

April 7, 2008 13:31 by Rickron

Reading some opengl specifications I was wondering if there are situations where usually we can get over the matrix limit. All the examples I have read look to be limited to a single pushmatrix operation... Any advice ?


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Opengl stack transformation

March 31, 2008 15:50 by Rickron

A simple question for whoever would pass by there. Few years ago I was working with opengl and I realized that there was a very low limit for transformation stack, like 32 i think. Does someone know why such a low limit. In my project I had to stack up these matrix to simulate complex movement and i found that a big limitations. is it still the same problem ? (sorry if it is obvious I didn't update my opengl book, 1998 )

 

Rick


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C++/CLI programming in mixed mode

March 31, 2008 14:57 by Rickron

C++/CLI programming in mixed mode is an interesting beast  by this time. Obviously I try to avoid the complicated case like low level interop or hosting a .net control into a CView (they offer secretly something for that, a class I just find , CWinFormsControl in the afxwinforms.h). Because when I am talking abour mixed mode programming I think it is meant  also for IJW programming. Ok IJW stand for "It Just Work" .. hey yes it is another microsoft beloved acronym. My most interesting use is to obviously wrap a native library, it is not a secret in the programming industry, this is probably the first intended use of this c++ feature: FIND  A WAY TO REUSE EXISTING CODE EASILY and this is what c++/cli achieve. In a better way even in vs2008. Just think about the useful STL/CLR stl adaptation or the various marshaling library available. In fact it should recently fix probably some strange runtime behavior when mixing compiling STL in mixed mode or even the debugger going crazy (but I didn't test the debugger in this case, I should). The most interesting try out was with extension mfc dll. I was amazed to see how easy it was to convert one into a "regular" one ( yes it depends how much you care with strange warning , but as long it works..,,)and compiling it for the "managed" purpose obviously. Only drawback that I didn't  see "workarounded" in any forum is the almost obligatory use of the AFX_MANAGE_STATE macro that get boring to add anywhere when you are using a gdi resource i guess (just say any where if you want to avoir trouble). And very difficult to diagnose . My next article in mixed-mode programming should be to see how it fit to use generic. A recent problem I got when you define a class as "ref" (managed) you cannot have multiple inheritance (without interface as well). I have read somewhere that the T generic parameter could not appear into the base classe. Another thing going right into the next OMNITECHIE laboratory test for your own pleasure.

Rick


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AJAX impression in vs2008...

March 31, 2008 14:44 by Rickron

I have played a little with AJAX library part of visual studio 2008.  But hey do someone know how to easily modify this library and/or replace it by  its own, sorry I didn't  find yet that in the various project property setting...  I see that you have to use it, it probably send part of any http request just what it needs on the client to work, but what if someone want to add trace into that library...yeah there is surely something i have missed somewhere.

 

By the same time I have tried the javascript debugger. Looks like very funny. Just to first see the browser global object like the DOM exposing the entire document, very interesting.

 


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Computer science formation

March 31, 2008 14:40 by Rickron

It is probably not official but the graduated Computer science formation can be considered as dead. Universities are still trying to do some cash but....In fact we should say that computer science technologies are so integrated into other professional domain , that they no longer deserve the ownership of any new idea good in IT development. Only exception I would say is if someone  have the patience to go through the post graduated formation. But even in this case... I was reviewing some job post by curiosity as well to see the tendencies in the requirement. It appeared to me that all the industrial programming in hardware domain (embedded programming , telecommunication , driver development) are now exclusively handled by engineer. Programming a lamp On/Off or a RS232 interface for a schneider device , etc. Using or developing some highly specialized like 3d hardware design tool , scientific programming environment (MATLAB) are so far in better hand of researcher and engineer.  Some weeks ago I was listening to a discussion in family where someone was suggesting the computer science domain to its very young boy. Now from what I see , a guy that have graduated in computer science, after going  through its assembly language programming course (low-level programming) , telecommunication , security , may be TCP/IP , socket handling course, Operating system architecture course (and maybe an advanced one  why not) ...well this guy will have to give up all obvious employment opportunities that its formation  (the list of course I have enumerated last ) should usually allow him to go in favor of another specialist. Even game development , just think about what it needs as physics ,  mechanic , and always more accurate graphics engine to simulate natural phenomenon ,collision , physics of material, lightning all this sorry are far from the reach of this little boy willing to program game by going for the traditional computer science formation. In this last domain the challenge was interesting in the old time, memory contrainst , low-level programming , assembly language tweaking, etc. Today all this sound like a joke with always  more powerful cpu , less memory constraints, more intelligent software that relegate your impact to simply decide by example if you will use stl map or hashset to organize a data set without worrying with the "how it works". But heyyy keep on , good news ...there are still traditional geek and  enthusiast domain  that omnitechie.com will continue to explore just for you....i hope...

 

Rick

 

 


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Animated Gif

March 15, 2008 15:37 by Rickron

You have probably noted this funny little animated gif in the title of this blog. I have a few other to show. Stay tuned... I will surely have them running somewhere on this blog.

 By the same time. If you know a tool to create animated gifs I would appreciate to know one . I have lost my old one and even recently the last version , "gif animator 5" from ulead was not compatible for vista.

Rick 

 


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silverlight first try

March 15, 2008 15:23 by Rickron

This is my first contact. I have tried something for the first time with silverlight. I didn't search really how to do and in vs2008 there was nothing obvious to indicate how to get by. But I simply choose to create a C# WPF Browser Application project. A bunch of file were generated in the build. Only one was important , the .xbap file. After an simple upload on this web hosting provider and tadam!!! I had just a simple button control... hey A more concrete example  will come ...promised.

 

Rick


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How to detect UI idle time in c# or C++/CLI

March 11, 2008 12:28 by Rickron

I have recently tried to get any use of Application.Idle event in an application but it sounds like there is always an event taking place into que message queue (the intended use here was to wait until the event is called and use it to run the a background thread). Therefore I had to implement my own idle time. It is sad that there is not an event available  to help in the recent FCL or may be someone could help ?....

 Rick


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Advanced Windows Debugging

March 6, 2008 14:27 by Rickron

"Advanced Windows Debugging"

 Currently reading this book from Hewardt and Pravat. If you consider the availability of this kind of book particularly that cover such tools like WinDBG in details this is a treasure if not unique. For WinDBG it is my first book. WinDBG is not a tool well known even in the windows development community. Visual Studio is generally more popular since it is slightly more user friendly (i guess). But windbg in fact shows itself as far more powerfull than its better known cousin. This is what I have found reading this book and I am only in the first hundredth pages (that cover the basic commant.)... more to come...

 Rick


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Intellisense: big change in visual studio 10 (not 2008)

March 6, 2008 13:45 by Rickron

Anyone did get problem with visual studio intellisense recently ? Normal it seems that the way it works currently and project being always bigger , the NCB file is no longer the best way to manage intellisense information (You know this big file along the solution file). In vs 10 they are going next to use the sql server compact edition to handle all this.

 Rick


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Cheap HD DVD Player in the wait of affordable blu-ray player

March 3, 2008 13:17 by Rickron

I give recently few bucks on the hd dvd for xbx 360 : 50 $!!!!!. Not bad. I hope only that the later still work for a time. In the box was the King Kong movie and a remote to handle the hd dvd, the xbx  but also the TV as well.  I have to admit that it's a cheap player. On the fast forward it's not as fast  as my sony dvd player (even far from it) . How it compare to real, other  hd dvd player brand ? But on the play speed it is doing the job perfectly. I just need now a LCD tv ....Yell

 

Rick


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Application.Idle event

March 3, 2008 12:54 by Rickron

Today I was wondering what was the best way to perform a task. Last I was almost sure that Application.Idle event would be enough for my needs. But I read a little about the backgroundworker object and I was not so sure. A backgroundworker object looks like more appropriated for task where UI is not sollicitated (in a different thread). Stuff from the Threading namespace would be complete but a lot more complex to use. May be not. Tomorrow  I will have to dig a little more about this.

 Hashset<T>

I got from the MSDN the new container in the recent FCL, HashSet<T> . Compared to other collection like Dictionary , what's the difference ? It looks like access are the first advantage but is that all ?

Rick

 


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vs2008

March 2, 2008 14:40 by Rickron

This week-end have been much fill in work. I have received my copy of vs2008 pro from amazon. In fact it was my first development tool in many years that deserve my precious buck. My previous one, was Visual C++ 5.0 pro (academic version) and I save you the explanation on how it was crap compared to recent tools. Obviously since that time I got access to VC++ and Visual studio that come all these years after. I enumerate them as VC6++ until 2002 , then Visual Studio 2002 , Visual Studio 2003 (both real nightmare, unstable and still managed C++ using the old managed extension syntax but ) , Visual Studio 2005 (finally something stable and providing the new C++/CLI syntax !!!)

 

Installation 

During the installation lots of problem have arise. Most of them was for sql server 2005 developer edition. I have had just the time to get this blog online but for sure thanks to the blogengine.net starter kit. Unfortunately less time to play bf2 for the next weeks....Embarassed

 

Rick


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Archive

March 2, 2008 11:57 by Rickron
12 septembre

.net scripting support

Quelqu'un d'entre vous saurait comment ou où dans les .net class library  on trouve un support pour scripter des applications windows du genre desktop. À mon avis ce serait quelque chose de très intéressant à y retrouver...
EL
10 septembre

Rentrée des séries télés

Rentrée de la Télé
La série de l'automne sera HEROES à Global TV. Le coté pratique de cette série c'est qu'elle ne coute rien si vous avez des oreilles de lapin. Ne lisez pas ce qui suit car ce sont des révélations sur la saison 2 de HEROES du moins pour le premier épisode. Enfin ce n'est surement pas un gros secret. Peter et Nathan auront survécu à leur mission suicide pour sauver la ville. Nathan aurait semble-t-il lacher Peter avant qu'il n'explose... pour Peter il parait qu'il aurait survécu mais pas plus de nouvelles pour l'instant. Pour ce qui est de notre ami japonais et comment il se débrouillera dans le japon médiéval. Il parait qu'il pourait y rencontrer son père...
Rentrée scene musicale
Ministry : nouvel album, 18 septembre: the Last Sucker - septembre, une tournée mais pas de date pour montréal. Jourgensen semble encore une fois avoir changé son style, délaissant un coté heavy métal  pour du hard-core industriel. Très intéressant.
PJ Harvey: nouvel album fin septembre
Bjork: un show à Montréal le 21 septembre au quai jacques-cartier. un nouvel album depuis avril.
Hanzel und gretyl: Probablement un nouvel album mais leur site n'est pas très bavard.
26 août

Directx 10

Je jetais un coup d'oeil sur amazon pour un livre sur directx 10 et je n'y voyais pas grand chose. Vous avez des idées de bon livre (directx 10) c'est pour convertir une appli réalisée en opengl , qui fonctionne très bien mais que j'aimerais voir rouler avecune meilleure interaction avec l'api win32 et peut-etre en code managed ....
EL 
23 août

mont-washington et new-york

Vacances
Jeudi et vendredi, j'étais sur le mont-washington et dimanche et lundi à new-york. Il va s'en dire que j'ai préféré mon séjour ....au mont-washington. Malheureusement pour le hiking j'aurais préféré être un peu plus organisé pour avoir eu les ressources de descendre la montagne (il était trop tard on a du le descendre en navette) . En effet j'y suis arrivé moi et un collègue un peu trop tard, vers 10h30 et nous avons mis trop de temps pour monter, soit 5h30.  La prochaine fois il serait préférable d'être au départ pas plus tard que 6h00 du matin. Cette première exprédition s'est réalisée sur une nouvelle piste. IL s'agit de la Tuckerman Ravine. J'étais loin de me doute de quelque chose du genre. Un élément de danger même était présent dans certains troncons de la montée (comme dans le front de la montagne dans le ravin entre autre). Mais pour la vue ca valait clairement la peine. Mais quel spectacle même si on en était qu'à un peu plus de la moitié dans le ravin. Autant au début de ce ravin qu'en haut rendu sur le début de la crête le paysage valait la peine de ramasser quelques fond d'écran. Mon préféré en ce moment est ce point où on se trouve juste à coté du massif du ravin qui sépare le mont avec je crois le mont adams juste à coté. Donc pour ceux et celles qui voudraient s'aventurer sur le même chemin quelques conseils qui se destinent probablement plus au novice.
Tuckerman ravine
1- Contrairement à la piste au flanc opposé Craig , le taux de progression est plus important. La carte topo montre clairement des lignes de niveau plus rapprochées.
2- Garder vos réserves d'énergie pour le ravin soit après 1 h30 de marche. À ce moment et pour environ 1h30  la piste devient très escarpée voire de difficile à discerner. J'ai manqué d'eau à la moitié parce que je pensais que le reste allait être plus facile :||.
3- Il y a un élément de danger en certains points , c'est le vide, prière d'attacher vos ceintures :))
4-Pendant le ravin garder à l'esprit qu'à sa fin il reste encore pour 45 min à 1h30 de grimpe sur la crête. Là aussi le chemin est très escarpé et non pas de petit chemin banalisé. Que des sauts entre masse rocheuse ; mais au moins pas le vertige donné par le  ravin.
5- Enfin c'est une impression mais la descente par la même piste est possible mais elle doit s'accompagner du même souci d'attention car c'est parfois à chier dans son froc (dans le ravin).
Bref si ca peut vous rassurer j'ai vu des familles grimper avec eux des enfants qui ne devaient pas avoir plus de 7 ans. Alors c'est la preuve que c'est possible après tout....(bon  ma famille de référence je gage avait probablement sous-estimé l'épreuve et a préféré descendre illico par la première navette disponible) ;)
Après l'ascension on a le travail dans le corps avant tout, mais aussi le sentiment d'un grand travail accompli et qu'il n'y a pas grand chose qui pourrait être à notre épreuve par la suite (si bien sur vous vous laissez quelques jours de repos ).
C'est une montée que je vais surement refaire au moins pour la redescendre et pourquoi peut-être emprunter une variante plus difficile en montée , la trail Lion's head qui semblait vraiment cool selon les certaines personnes qu'on a croisé.
Bref rappel que pour les photos c'est dans le ravin où ca vait vraiment la peine. Je m'en veux de n'en avoir pas pris plus.
EL
30 juillet

impression jogging et listbox

Une autre séance de jogging pour flusher la journée. J'ai pas encore battu mon temps. Faire le carré christophe-colomb henri-bourassa papineau - crémazie en moins d'une heure ferme (genre 45 minutes... lala j arrive à peine à 1 heure).
Quelques-un de mes amis pensent que c'est pas bon pour les genoux. Je vais leur faire plaisir. C'est vrai. En revenant mon prochain geste est de m'écraser et de me reposer un peu. Alors oui ce n'est pas pratique si on veut par la suite partir faire 300 km de vélo ou bien jouer au tennis pendant 5 heures. Je commence à croire que c'est plutot comme une drogue dont les contradictions sur les points bons ou mauvais  me pensent carrément par-dessus la tête. Je dois dire que ce soir j'ai un peu les genoux en feu mais 1 heure c'est pas mal le maximum que je peux faire anyway. Je devrais peut etre diminuer la séance pour 20 minutes et plutot que de me limiter à deux fois semaines y aller tous les jours....;|
Dur retour à la réalité aujourd hui dans le merveilleux monde de la programmation sous windows mais avec le .net 2.0. En effet le réveil a été un peu brutal. Je pensais qu'un listbox dans le .net 2.0 ca permettait de manipuler les items comme des reférences (un peu comme pour un listview et un treeview) et de permettre ainsi d'effacer des éléments en les référant....ca a ben l'air que non  ...et ca m'a aussitot rappelé que ca ne diffère pas tellement d'un listbox en win32....
La bonne nouvelle cette semaine sur le .net c'est le controle ScrollViewer qui va me permettre de foutre à la poubelle la bouette que j avais écrit pour scroller une surface  "device context" (ou si vous préférez un objet system.drawing.graphic) avec l'importation de ScrollWindowEx de user32.dll et plein de merde chiante comme le SetDisplayRect machin pour faire en sorte que le viewport virtuel fonctionne. Bon enfin ca sera juste pour le .net 3.0 (et quand il n'y aura que des pcs avec xp sp2 dans le monde entier....) mais de le savoir est rassurant. Le bémol au .net 3.0 sous vista qui me fait déchanter c'est que même si la fonction de permutation de tache (touche Windows + TAB) nous laisse croire que l'on puisse appliquer des transformations à des fenetres à l'extérieur de la zone client, il n'en est rien. Il faudra malheureusement attendre une autre version de windows pour voir ce jour. Pourtant XAMLPad  (dans le SDK 3.0) nous laisse penser aussi que c'est possible car j'y arrive à transformer dans le preview une fenetre avec sa zone non-cliente!!!! (mais avec difficulté). Il semble qu'il y ait une limite fixée par un désir d'éviter les problèmes de compatibilité pour les vieilles couches d'appels win32. Bref cette information est très difficile à obtenir autrement que par les news de développement. Jetez-y un coup d'oeil. alp.
EL

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